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Friday, 26 August 2011

ATOS vs CarerWatch - It Just Gets Worse!

Doughty British Grannies Prepare to
Slamdunk Cheese-eating ATOS Surrender Monkeys

It is looking increasingly like it is ATOS Healthcare that is going to find itself the victim of legal action as the true nature of their “case” against CarerWatch becomes clearer.
And ATOS says “Fuck You!”
ATOS are claiming the reason they nuked the CarerWatch forum was because of A SINGLE LINK in a post over FIVE MONTHS OLD. The target of that offending link is STILL ON TEH INTAWEBZ - and with no sign of ATOS having attempted to take it down. The offending link is back there <---- which leads here

OK, *speechless* Try to finish this later. In the meantime please read the update from CarerWatche's blog.

Michael Chewter from CarerWatch said

ATOS are a very dishonest organisation. They should have informed Carer Watch if they were genuinely concerned about any of the posts on its site... They have done the same thing with other carer and disability sites.
Even Dr Goldacre is getting in on the act
When you consider the way ATOS treat claimants it is hardly surprising that complaints are made about their behaviour.

As a member of the LRC and the Labour Party and a founder member of Carer Watch, I would like to ask MPs to take this matter up with the government, who employ ATOS.


CarerWatch received this reply from Atos, to their earlier letter:

Dear Frances,

Thank you for your email. The posting which we consider to be defamatory against Atos Healthcare and our employees is dated March 23rd, 8:51 pm.

As I said in my previous email, we fully support the right of people to express their opinions and would very much like to work with you to ensure your forum is reinstated as soon as possible...


CarerWatch replied:

Dear Caroline

Thank you for supplying the date and time of the post that concerns you.

We have finally traced it. We run a live discussion group and posts are normally only current for a few days. In this case the post is five months old. It did not create any interest at the time and has long since become inactive.




Having seen the post we are even more confused as to why you took this aggressive action against us. We were surprised to see that this post was not written by a member of CarerWatch but is merely a link to an article on another site.

We were also surprised when we followed the link to see that the original article is still visible on the site of origin.

We cannot understand why you would take this matter up with us when your dispute is with the authors of the linked article. We feel like collateral damage in this.

We would like to point out that we are running a private discussion group for members and we do not know how you saw this link on our site. But if you have some how been watching the posts in our group you will know that members post on an enormous breadth of topics and post links to a wide variety of other sites.



Members often post links to material on other sites precisely because they are vehemently opposed to the material.

We repeat – this is a discussion group and posts have to be read in the context of open discussion.

We are concerned that this type of extreme hyper vigilance of discussion groups could seriously damage free and open discussion.

You say that you embarked on this action to protect the reputation of your company. But you can call on unlimited resources to obtain legal advice and you should bear in mind that groups like us have no resources and cannot obtain legal advice. We think you should bear this in mind when making your actions proportionate and appropriate.


We are sure you, like us, wish to bring this situation to a speedy conclusion. As it was your action that resulted in our forum being taken down, we suggest the following. We will remove the post in question (without prejudice), and in turn you will make arrangements to have our forum reinstated, whilst also giving us a guarantee that should you have any concerns in future, you will bring them directly to us and not to the hosting company.

Considering the immense distress caused to our members, and the volume of unnecessary work created for us, we consider these to be extremely reasonable requests.

We await your reply.

Frances

6 comments:

  1. Like the Atos fish  with the peg on its nose and starting to smell stinky. |I wonder when everyone else in the real world would notice? Just seen a typical nasty deluded blog where atos and govt and just getting the scroungers and badbackers off benefits. Have they ever bothered to try and find the facts? No they have not and if they did they still would believe their prejudice.  See some fantastic people everyday why does the rest of the world choose to remain thick?  Already passed this info on several times. but liked the fish.


    After Atos is the website and feedback survey dedicated to all those going through the Atos assessments. and still rolling and sent the info and facts to back this one up too. When will that glass ceiling crack?

    AA

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  2. It's looking like ATOS's chief solicitor, the Big Beast Loughrey, had some problems with premature ejaculation of legaleese.

    One of the campaigners is preparing a complaint to the Solicitors' Regulation Authority over his behaviour... More details when I have them...

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  4. stinking hypocrisy from a group that has one member who has closed sites down with complaints. A member who is still engaged in a nasty little cyber-stalking campaign, a 5 year campaign I may add.

    Most carers didn't give a rats fart when carerwatch went offline because it simply isn't safe. Peoples details passed to a hate site, a cyber-staker who threatens disabled women and a group that can't decide if it's an old style Labour supporting group or a Lib Dem supporting group.

    From what I've been told there was way more than one single remark that got them booted offline, even their hosts stated there was libellous content (http://forum.myfreeforum.org/about20650.html "That forum and carerwatchdotcom are under threat of legal action by ATOS and have been taken down.The threat seems legitimate as the forums contents are pretty libellous.")

    I hate Atos with a passion but well done them for making the internet a little safer by removing that group even if it was only for a short while.

    Carerwatch's new motto should now be "owned and paid for by Atos"

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  5. Yes, there's been a lot of nastiness beneath the surface. Egos bruised by the boisterous newcomers, loosening their grip on the debate and the people who are really suffering, refusing to get pushed to the back and refusing to let others speak for them...

    Currently they are too scared even to type ATOS - A**** has to stand for the name that can't even be spoken.

    ATOS must be pissing themselves laughing.

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  6. Kersuell61August 28, 2011

    you seem to know a lot about the cyber stalking campaign Arnold, for someone who is independent! But politically biased?

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